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Post by Milly on Jan 7, 2019 22:56:28 GMT
There's been a lot of really good ideas floating around, and I like the discussion. My main... Hesitation, I guess, on changing Nintaijutsu and also Chakra Flow and with the same extension, elemental chakra flow is that's in the middle of the wipe. A massive change like this seems like something to do at the beginning of next wipe, you know? Just because it'd cause a massive headache, and people would probably have to shift their professions around, a massive amount of refunds, people bitching, etc.
But it's definitely a solid idea.
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Post by Jumpy on Jan 7, 2019 23:30:13 GMT
There's been a lot of really good ideas floating around, and I like the discussion. My main... Hesitation, I guess, on changing Nintaijutsu and also Chakra Flow and with the same extension, elemental chakra flow is that's in the middle of the wipe. A massive change like this seems like something to do at the beginning of next wipe, you know? Just because it'd cause a massive headache, and people would probably have to shift their professions around, a massive amount of refunds, people bitching, etc. But it's definitely a solid idea. This. It's probably too late to take any big change and would just result in people's specs being out of whack, people getting angry and some people getting like 40 pp of refunds and suddenly lose the ability to slap wind into others. Nintaijutsu should be a semi-unique (with very low standards, just as a "your character has to fit this" level of approval) that comes as a T3. Pure Chakra Flow was, in canon, way more difficult than elemental chakra flow. It should be bumped to T3 and be put on the same level of Elemental chakra flow, both being semi-uniques with the same level of scrutiny as Nintaijutsu. It should also only be with 1 element. Pure chakra flow would allow you to have no elemental disadvantage (as it does right now) and scale with your control (as it does right now), it would just be for the kind of person that either doesn't want to pick up an element or can't afford picking one up. Those taking a spec slot is up in the air but it definitely would make them more bearable since basically anyone with a reason would get them. We would solve the issue of literally everyone with a sword spamming getsuga tenshou and get rid of frankly dumb techniques (hello any-element-issei). All of those ideas should be implemented for next wipe or whatever. P.S.: Could you imagine having a B-rank nintai move that lets you punch a blast of any element that you have except earth?
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Post by Milly on Jan 7, 2019 23:36:11 GMT
P.S.: Could you imagine having a B-rank nintai move that lets you punch a blast of any element that you have except earth? Oh wow who would ever have that....
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Post by Prestige on Jan 7, 2019 23:38:24 GMT
the big problem with nintai is not that it's too good or strong, is that its not used the right way. which is what the entire admin team thought would happen when ppl will be able to reach itβ and here we are. we wanted to see it as a part of the game unlike last wipe, and it deserves to stay-- but it's being used as a "i slap a t3 req on an a-rank and somehow it loses its seals". that's not what it's supposed to do.
generally i don't think it should take a spec point tho. it kinda takes two already, so?
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Post by Prestige on Jan 7, 2019 23:40:02 GMT
oh and it's a good point @ multiple elements being used with the t3 perk. i'd say it should limit a person to one element they choose, and that's it. no spec point still, but you shouldn't cop 3 fighting styles off one perk. maybe for further styles u'd need to spend spec points.
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Post by Ignis Flame on Jan 7, 2019 23:42:32 GMT
Taijutsu is already great, and elements are beyond wonderful too.
Everyone and anyone then being allowed to use all of their trained and affinities inside of nintai without a spec, semi unique, or otherwise dedication put into it leaves you as the avatar.
Literally.
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Post by rhyneth on Jan 7, 2019 23:44:32 GMT
Taking up a spec slot would be kinda silly, imo. Considering as of the moment, spec slots are pretty limited in the current wipe; to get Nintai in just one element would mean you're spending three spec slots in total, if Nintai takes up a spec slot.
It shouldn't be a semi-unique neither; the perk on it's own doesn't give any massive advantages off the bat for your existing kit compared to say Manipulator or Tweaker or Dual Caster, it's merely a keycard to get to stuff; it's up to the admin team to truly determine how strong it will be, it's a perk which ultimately could be strong or weak all depending on the admin team and the approval of applications for Nintai techs. The only true issue with the perk right now is, it's like elemental chakra flow, it doesn't take into account your elemental affinities which should play a part in just what you can do with the perk.
If anything, it's something to consider for another wipe; preferably when the systems have been overhauled since right now, changing it midwipe when there's a lot better stuff out there than an access perk that costs three points? Seems as if it'll just punish people who got it, rather than those who don't have it, or might plan to get it.
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Post by Prestige on Jan 7, 2019 23:44:52 GMT
also if u think nintai = chakra flow/ele chakra flow u are retarded
i said it
dont even @ me like honestly how can u even say that with a straight face
one lets u put an element on a weapon that u will already die to if u are actually getting hit by- the other? anything u fucking want ninja. utility, defense, offense. a giant dragon that takes no seals and burns u to a crisp. everything.
how is that comparable
"but ken can send a slash of fire!!!!!!!!"
bitch
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Post by Prestige on Jan 7, 2019 23:45:30 GMT
and yes i do like talking to myself on the forums
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Post by Prestige on Jan 7, 2019 23:46:59 GMT
i also dont think the change will take that much time. nintai isnt that COMMON or big that it'll take us weeks to go through it and fix it. but well, some of the vocal players are also the ones who use it and dont wanna see it changed :eyes: Jumpy, what do you have to say for urself, serpent?
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Post by Prestige on Jan 7, 2019 23:48:22 GMT
one lets u put an element on a weapon that u will already die to if u are actually getting hit by- the other? anything u fucking want ninja. utility, defense, offense. a giant dragon that takes no seals and burns u to a crisp. everything. i wrote ninja instead of n igga. holy shit. the bot on the discord is actually affecting me. EDIT: IS THERE A FUCKING BOT ON THE FORUMS TOO WHAT THE FUCK
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Post by rhyneth on Jan 7, 2019 23:49:07 GMT
yes
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Post by Milly on Jan 7, 2019 23:50:37 GMT
I mean, I don't have nintai and I'm the one who said it'd be dumb to make the change midwipe.
It's the same as when MMOs don't make massive changes except during expansions.
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Post by rhyneth on Jan 7, 2019 23:54:30 GMT
I mean, I don't have nintai and I'm the one who said it'd be dumb to make the change midwipe. It's the same as when MMOs don't make massive changes except during expansions.
Look just because it's called World of Ninjas doesn't mean you can begin drafting up the Burning Shinobi Expak.
Come on now.
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Post by Milly on Jan 7, 2019 23:55:11 GMT
You are not prepared, Rhyneth.
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