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Post by Ignis Flame on Oct 16, 2018 15:56:16 GMT
“You guys are at fault for not pushing things as players.” - Udi
After I get back from my duties I’m going to highlight why you’re wrong, Udi. A max of 10 people daily are going to start what exactly? More on this when I’m home.
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Post by dtfmagic on Oct 16, 2018 16:15:53 GMT
Hey boys, it's me. So I've been referenced a few times in the thread and thought I'd give my opinions on things around here!
So, as some people have said I'm one of the eventmins for Yukigakure, and I'm sorry that my events haven't hit the right spots for some people, I'm definitely giving it my all to provide you all with a meaningful experience, because I've been on the end of... "Yeah I went to that event, but it wasn't really a great one. We just kinda fought, and... that's it." So I've always tried to provide some moment of character development should the need arsie. That being said I've also been restricted to D rank missions for the past few days, but that all changed last night thanks to the efforts of everyone in Yukigakure!
Now, that being said yes I do have a character that I enjoy plaiyng. So my events will probably be spaced out every two or three days, but I've heard your cries for more Oasis style events that feel like the main plot and just messaged Whenwas trying to get a schedule for when we can do the next few. I can't really promise a concrete timeline until our conversation is over, but I'll do my best to prop everyone up as best as I can while also working with the other eventmins to get some help with the more minor events here and there.
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Post by idu on Oct 16, 2018 16:30:35 GMT
“You guys are at fault for not pushing things as players.” - Udi After I get back from my duties I’m going to highlight why you’re wrong, Udi. A max of 10 people daily are going to start what exactly? More on this when I’m home. highlight why i'm wrong but don't pay attention to the fact that it was stated that everyone in question is at fault. nobody is right in this scenario, understand that. yall have eventmin to hit up to try 'n talk things out with, but if you're gonna curl your arms and grumble without much of a compromise then there's no real need to even discuss anything. "hey eventmin, i have an idea here's what i wanna do can you help us accomplish this? nah? that's cool i'll talk to another one." yall have tools to provide rp for yourselves and your village. everything is not player-generated, no. yuki doesn't need 40 people to spark an event. granted yes not -every- eventmin that was hired is fond of yuki, the few that are, are maybe too busy, or are focusing on other things. so don't take the entirety of my post out of context when it was stated that everyone is at fault.
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Post by Salmon on Oct 16, 2018 16:55:48 GMT
Darwin: - snip- You brag about your "epic trolls" towards the admin team and delete 500 messages in admin chat before taking a screenshot and showing everyone how you epicly pwnd someone today.
to cut him some slack and potentially ease some minds here those 500 messages were all someone (i wont name names but it was dani) spamming "u can deadass check whos deleting what" after two unrelated messages were deleted so it's not like it was a grand scale disaster that ruined anything at all
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Post by cuddy on Oct 16, 2018 16:59:52 GMT
Darwin: - snip- You brag about your "epic trolls" towards the admin team and delete 500 messages in admin chat before taking a screenshot and showing everyone how you epicly pwnd someone today.
to cut him some slack and potentially ease some minds here those 500 messages were all someone (i wont name names but it was dani) spamming "u can deadass check whos deleting what" after two unrelated messages were deleted so it's not like it was a grand scale disaster that ruined anything at all
ahhh.... good ol' byond people taking shit out of context. ain't it sweet?
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Post by Prestige on Oct 16, 2018 17:26:01 GMT
to cut him some slack and potentially ease some minds here those 500 messages were all someone (i wont name names but it was dani) spamming "u can deadass check whos deleting what" after two unrelated messages were deleted so it's not like it was a grand scale disaster that ruined anything at all
ahhh.... good ol' byond people taking shit out of context. ain't it sweet? this ain't it though. salmon is trying to @ and isn't doing so successfully since even in the screenshot jumpy provided you can see darwin deleted more than that. it was extremely childish and petty [from me too] but >><< as long as someone is getting their fun from trolling another person it's cool though no hard feelings
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Post by nomit on Oct 16, 2018 18:52:19 GMT
Luca: The fact you're still running around with a cat that has T3 cores baffles me. How the fuck are you not fired already after arguing and crying towards people who participate in your events or straight up ignore them when they RP because you don't like them OOCly. You literally insult players and giggle to yourself because all you get are slaps on the wrist every week rather than being swept away. It's so fucking bad that when you offer yourself to do an event for the players they'd rather have someone else. I never rp'd a cat with tier 3 cores lmfao you're insane dude. Also I've ran like 2 missions for you. And after watching you bitch about it and try undermine it afterwards (exactly what you're doing now) I've gravitated towards doing Amegakure missions more, which is literally on you, you moron. Why don't you chill and stop bitching. It's just a game dude. You get out what you put in. absolutely yikes. bless you for having the patience to even run 2 missions for someone that entitled and cringy.
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Post by Jumpy on Oct 16, 2018 19:00:12 GMT
I never rp'd a cat with tier 3 cores lmfao you're insane dude. Also I've ran like 2 missions for you. And after watching you bitch about it and try undermine it afterwards (exactly what you're doing now) I've gravitated towards doing Amegakure missions more, which is literally on you, you moron. Why don't you chill and stop bitching. It's just a game dude. You get out what you put in. absolutely yikes. bless you for having the patience to even run 2 missions for someone that entitled and cringy. The T3 cores came from both people who got it flashed at them and admins that literally said to us "Yeah I had to tell him to stop being a gaybaby" (ad verbatim). 👀
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Post by Ignis Flame on Oct 16, 2018 21:39:25 GMT
highlight why i'm wrong but don't pay attention to the fact that it was stated that everyone in question is at fault. nobody is right in this scenario, understand that. yall have eventmin to hit up to try 'n talk things out with, but if you're gonna curl your arms and grumble without much of a compromise then there's no real need to even discuss anything. "hey eventmin, i have an idea here's what i wanna do can you help us accomplish this? nah? that's cool i'll talk to another one." yall have tools to provide rp for yourselves and your village. everything is not player-generated, no. yuki doesn't need 40 people to spark an event. granted yes not -every- eventmin that was hired is fond of yuki, the few that are, are maybe too busy, or are focusing on other things. so don't take the entirety of my post out of context when it was stated that everyone is at fault. Relax on that. I said I'd get back to you fully when I got home - I'm ready. I'll begin breaking down why I think that view point is a load and a cop out. I paid a lot of attention to everything you said and I highlighted the biggest piece which made me both laugh but also shake my head at once I got down to the nitty-gritty. The main point of the topic was to address the fact that we actually only get around 10-15 people online at our PEAK MAX HOURS. I'm not going to sit here and let you slam me and tell me I'm crossing my arms when I made this big ass topic to call this shit out. You claim this as an equal opportunity blame but it really ain't like that. That ain't the fuckin' wave, Udi. You're not going to sit here and tell me... Let me open up my contacts list... That (From the top now, y'all) Atsuto, Zao Iha, Akiho, Yuzuru, Yui, Baal, Hito, Thane and Bastard aren't pushing RP. (Even O'Hara sometimes, I didn't forget ya'.). That Kiku and Mitsuwa alike (<3) don't put in WORK. Because you do, and those people do - And that's great! But the names I omitted from that list consist of three to five. One is a reactive little guy, one is hampered down by work and eventing, and the other three are new makes. That's what makes up Yuki right now, those choice few names that were listed up there and I personally sit here and watch every single one of these little guys work their ass off to make something of anything. You're not going to sit here and go "A good chunk of y'all are the problem, damn players!!" when the number really, really ain't that way whatsoever. So if we're working... It's gotta be the people on the inside in charge of creating an outside force for us. How is that in any way our fault? Unless you'd like to point your finger at the 3-4 little amigos sitting on the side twiddling their thumbs who do that shit in every game they play.
Then sure, lmfao. They make up +25% of our population anyway.... In your original post you said that starters are just starters, and I completely agree with you! In fact, I'm in love with the hard work you put in for Yuki every single day and it's an absolute joy watching you almost alone make the experience for us worth tolerating. Thank you, Udi! But that ain't the problem. Most of us do push things left and right, but there's only so much power we have as story tellers to effect an entire village when we are a measly group of C- Genin. On a D-Rank Rep world where we (formerly) had to feed orphans to get the ball rolling again. Our little pot of a village grew stale and that was the point of this thread, compadre.
If you want us as the players, already trying our damn hardest to boil up more RP, to be eventmins or even admins and work more, then say that. But once again, the ball ain't in our hands. I'd get it if we were lazy, but we're really not.
Moving onto your second post.. .. Your "fact" that you stated is plain wrong and I explained why in the above. Isn't it your job as admins to lead the path for the eventmins and give them a rough outline of shit to do? If you'd like us to bug them to do their job, we can do that! Or should we write up plotlines as a whole and pass them to our eventmins who can't do that for themselves? We can also do that!
And to your final point of "You have the tools." The Australians Disagreed, Nick Clique disagreed (lmfao), and Yuki isn't happy, Udi. The point of this thread is to fix, and that's being done right now and I sincerely thank you.
But as Koden said earlier, "It's going to take a lot of work from the admin team." All of the players here are fired up and ready to kick ass and help our village. Eventmins need to be poked with a stick and handed a blueprint, and you guys should start working harder too. Half of you don't log onto the game. Who's really not pulling their weight here? Or are we really going to let Dani get employee of the month award?
It was not giving a fuck last time that killed the game. Let's not repeat that. We're not asking to be spoonfed, but when our village is already starting to die - We could use the help, pass the food, and then pass seconds while you're at it.
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Post by idu on Oct 16, 2018 22:06:53 GMT
nawh tbr i took the blame for yuki falling out when it was first brought up in admin chat. i brought it up to darwin too roughly the same day which led to that one yuki clan event happening about a day later. i call it resources because at the end of the day both eventmin and starters were given a certain direction and criteria to abide to and it kinda ain't stick to what it should've been.
im not gonna take this to a non-professional route and start exposing the names of ppl that kinda tore down yuki's foundation cus that'd be childish of me.
there -are- players that tried, some harder than others. when i say hit up eventmin i dont mean make a forum post, i mean literally hit up dudes on discord with an idea to settle on. i can, however expose the fact that most of them don't like a handful of yall from yuki despite us as admins trying to nudge them to do things for the village as a whole.
some made up excuses, some belittled yall in their own little discord chat.
however i called it everyone's fault because despite there being an attempt, there's always more that everyone can do as a whole.
yes i can name certain characters such as atsuto and zao that have done their fair share of business for the village and even helped increase the rep almost by themselves. (i won't expose their ooc names whether people know who they are or not.)
but i've seen villages thrive more off of combat, yuki overtime has turned into a more passive village. your biggest issue is that most of the eventmin won't budge, or they're busy throughout the day.
"but why take the job if you're going to be busy a lot?"
it happens, we can't necessarily control irl. yuki only have about 2 people i can think from the top of my head that'll dish out events, however those two are busy doing their thing irl; or trying to get settled in.
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Post by luca on Oct 16, 2018 22:08:28 GMT
In my opinion Yuki needs to app for more events. I check the event request forum frequently, from what I see the majority of event requests come from Ame specifically. There's no bias against Yuki. Make more apps, you'll get more events. The Oasis story thing I'm not really a part of, but I'm happy to help out with that when I can. That story's just getting kicked into gear recently and fleshed out, have some patience. Blaming eventmins is just ugly, they're trying their best and doing it solely for the entertainment of everyone involved. Also maybe stop killing off the guys causing trouble, but hey you guys do you, it doesn't matter to me.
Also Jumpy that tier 3 core cat that I've supposedly been running around as isn't a thing, the amount of crybaby bullshit you spout doesn't really help the apparent issue that you've decided to use as a medium to complain about just about everyone. Very counter-intuitive to the subject matter! I get pm'd constantly by people asking for me to run them events, and the general feedback is very positive. I hope you can pull the stick out of your ass and try enjoy the game you spend most of your life playing. Happy naruto adventures!
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Post by Milly on Oct 16, 2018 22:13:56 GMT
To kind of piggyback off Divey's post, where he mentioned the large gap of events between Amegakure, and Yukigakure....
Ame: Fishing Trip - Sept 17 A Cat Rescue + New Challenger Approaches Raizaki - Sept 21 PIZZAstrophe (haha.. anyone?) - Sept 22 Bacon Mafia - Sept 23 Flight of the Bats - Sept 26 Blacksmith Escort - Sept 26 Raizaki Drug Deals - Sept 28 Thiefington - The Arrival - Sept 30 Yogi and Boo-boo - Sept 30 Retrieval - Oct 1 Raizaki Kiddnapping - Oct 1 Raizaki Weapons Trade - Oct 5 Bandit Tom Foolery - Oct 5 Hidden Weapon Cache - Oct 6 Tricky Trickery - Oct 6 Shark Tales - Oct 6 REPTILE BUSINESS [Ame Chain] - Oct 8 Thieves with Hidden Motives - Oct 8 First rogue encouter featuring Luca and Broke - Oct 8 Raizaki Eventchain Arc - - Oct 9 A Friendly Wanderer - Oct 9 Stealth teacher idk if I'm supposed to log these - Oct 11 Kazamura Battle - Oct 12 Bingo Book: Encountering the Igarashis - Oct 12 Bounty Book Megathread - Oct 16 The Saki Gang - Oct 16 Spooky event - Oct 16
Yuki: CATastrophe - Sept 18 We Bare Bears - Sept 21 Grafiti Artist - Sept 28 Starter Intro - Sept 30 Suspicious Activity Pt.1 - Oct 1 Woolly Mammoth filler episode - Oct 3 Stories by the forgotten fire part one - Oct 10 (for a dead player) Yukigakure Initiative Event Thing - Oct 10 Hunting tigers - Oct 11 Yuki Clan Elder - Oct 12 Oasis event chain - Oct 13 Feeding the orphans! - Oct 14
He wasn't even joking. Also re: "Well Ame players have been requesting events!"... So has Yuki. Requested: Ame: Completed: 10 Pending: 6
Yuki: Completed: 1 Pending: 10
While yes, events shouldn't be the only thing that promotes RP - the lack of them can certainly HINDER RP. On the flipside, however, the more events a village has doesn't necessarily mean the village will prosper. Look at Iwagakure last wipe - most of the eventmins that applied, solely did events for Iwa. We had like 5 of them that only did events for Iwa and none for Konoha. It got to the point where a single player did a gigantic event chain for Konoha to get us going again. It wasn't until Celeste decided to do an entire Suna taking over Iwa eventchain that Iwa really got life breathed back into it - which is what I think needs to happen for Yukigakure. We need something big to focus on! Something to work towards, etc.
Blowing up Yukigakure is a cop out and a poor excuse. Why don't we blow up Amegakure instead? Making Yukigakure smaller may be something that can happen. I will look into it.
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Post by Milly on Oct 16, 2018 22:18:16 GMT
Also maybe stop killing off the guys causing trouble, but hey you guys do you, it doesn't matter to me. The 1 starter died and the 1 Genin was killed by our leader. ):
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Post by Sun on Oct 17, 2018 1:31:13 GMT
yall can look at event statistics all you want lmao its not the primary issue. run the numbers and data on your admin team Milly
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Post by Milly on Oct 17, 2018 1:58:24 GMT
I mean - if you read below the numbers, I did express having more events doesn't necessarily mean it helps a village (i.e: Iwagakure last wipe). So I don't get your point, really...
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